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Chen Rafaeli's avatar

Time and distance are almost always ...it's easier with them. Everything can be understood, to a degree. Everything can be fascinating. Everything is a thread in some huge tapestry.

Place also plays a role-the more far removed, at least in our mind-the better. "better".

we're tourists, not emigrees, in history

So waiting is good, I agree.

I need to think more, -thank you for the essay

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When I was younger, I used to scorn musicians who cancelled tours in countries with whose actions they disagreed, boycotting them. To me art was a conduit for expressing ideas. Their decision rendered their art a mere product, not unlike gas or bread, with the deprivation of which they as if wanted to starve the enemy, instead of using the literal stage they were given in order to speak out, express, come into a conversation.

Reflecting on it now I see it somewhat differently. Art is not just exchange of ideas but a provided aesthetic experience. Still, and exactly for that, there's a missed opportunity. That's what's great in art: by virtue of its appeal it is carried over space and generations, it attracts, reaching the people that need its message. A sugar coated pill.

A year or two ago a band I love, Igorrr, gave a concert in Berlin. It had been postponed multiple times, for months, years, due to covid, and by the time the band showed up it was no longer the band I bought the ticket for; their two vocalists had been let off because they were anti vaxxers. I was terribly disappointed. The substitutes sang well, but not as well as Laure Le Prunenec. I didn't give a fig if she had gotten vaccinated or not, I wanted to see and hear her sing! What if she expressed support for a repugnant political agenda? I think I'd have gone still.

My line would have been drawn there, at least, where she not just talked but personally did the abhorrable, like Alice Sebold (about whom I've written but not yet published) who had not just not so innocently put an innocent man in prison for decades (and wrote a book about it), but didn't have the dignity to make a proper apology when he was finally exonerated.

My father has expressed the exact sentiment recently, about not wanting to hand a cent to the Russians. Our discussion was about the Russian translation of some work. I didn't argue very long with him, but I was of a different opinion. I understand the bit about the taxes, but to me it's a bit like throwing the baby with the water (and in some way related to the "collective guilt" you alluded to, but I'll put it aside). Naturally books will not translate themselves. I can't remember what novel this was about, even less so who the translator was, but I think it's likely that the translator was one of those who do not support the regime or the war, and, moreover, I think that translation of literary works is one way by which ideas can penetrate into the Russian public and enrich the Putin propaganda diet. I say it tentatively, I'm not completely sure, but especially since Russia is already pretty well embargoed, I don't think the diminished taxation would really do much to their ammunition stocks, but the removed demand for such works will do something to their cultural life, and therefore to the character of the nation, and that not for the better.

@vanyabagaev Vanya Bagaev alluded to cancel culture, saying that it was different albeit related, but I think it's essentially the same phenomenon: making discourse contingent. You did so and so or used the wrong words and therefore an exchange between you and me, the opportunity to persuade and be persuaded, to understand, to teach, explain, is out of the picture. It reminds me Netanyahu's "we (Israel) will not negotiate with terrorists" (that's from decades ago). Oh really, mister prime minister, with whom are you going to negotiate then, with your friends?

I might be playing the devil's advocate here; I don't know your previously admired now zedded artists, but perhaps they're not as devious as they may appear to be.

I too don't think that during the Third Reich most Germans were nazis, or even particularly antisemitic, necessarily. Or that the majority of Russians today are big fans of Mr. Putin. But the state has a power that individuals do not. It's a coordination problem. You can never look into the hearts of your fellow women and men, and might believe that your insubordinate sentiments are uncommon. We use discourse to find such things out, but at an atmosphere where you get arrested on the street because your clothing paired together the wrong colours, it's not easy, to put it mildly.

I always think of that last speech of Ceaușescu, where everything crumbled down for him. One day he's the supreme leader of the country, the next day he and his wife are butchered like dogs. Naturally it wasn't that the speech was that bad, it merely served as the catalyst to show everyone that the king was naked.

The point is that perhaps those fallen artists of yours simply pay lip service to the authority. They should be liable to what they say outside their work, sure, but when it comes to regarding the work, I'd, like you said, view it for what it is. Gogol was allegedly antisemitic, but this did not reflect in his work (at least I don't remember noticing or minding), and I do not promote antisemitism by enjoying his work. Neither would I promote it very much even if he was still alive and I paid for his work and sang its praise. That we tend to idolize great artists (and their opinion) makes it more complicated, but I'll leave it at that.

If we refuse to come into discourse with a person because of their expressed opinions (cancelling them, as it were), we deny ourselves the opportunity to change their minds, sure. But experiencing the art of others is nowadays mostly a one way conversation, they do not hear us back (unless we make internet about it). Still, we do not experience art in a complete vacuum. If we both listened to the same band, saw the same movie, read the same book, WE could come into a dialog about it and if you share the opinions of the artists, I could debate you.

There's a lot of talk about polarized culture and a tendency to think of people as entrenched in their opinions. It might be that online discourse is not particularly suitable for changing people's minds, but at the very least offline interaction is. I recall a house party where my ear caught a couple of persons next to me discussing something I cared about. I had met the guy for the first time that evening and spoke with the gal for the first time when I injected myself into their conversation. They disagreed over the topic of nudity. The guy was in some sports club where the team showered together after practice, the gal spoke against the implicit requirement to be naked before others if you didn't want to do it (but still wanted to participate in the sport). I'm a big proponent of FKK (naturism/ nudism) and essentially took the side of the guy (who in the meanwhile would disappear). By the end of the conversation she agreed with me. Nudity seems to be immaterial in this post's context of wars, but it could have really been any topic.

I recall now too that something similar happened to me another time with a covid conspiracy theorist, a person with whom I spoke for the first time. Instead of telling him ‘you crazy idiot!!!’ like one might, I asked him questions to understand what grounds his opinions stood on. The Socratic method, if you will. It ended up with him raising a question that doubted his original stance.

Also, I'm disappointed by the click-baity title!! I've been curious to read Mein Kampf for a while. As there's a list of books I'm more eager to read that I'll probably nevertheless never read, I'll probably remain merely curious. Boo.

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